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I'd like to see if others agree with the premise of my other thread on the Left-Right schism on Israel? The other thread asked "why."

Do you agree that the Left/Liberals tends to side with the Palestinians, while the Right/Conservatives tend to side with Israel?
It might help to define exactly what you meant by "Right" and "Left". I haven't kept up with the intricacies of the Modern Left, but in 2012 United States, both small government, great personal freedom advocating free market capitalists and hardcore Christian fundamentalists that think the Constitution is an appropriate place to legislate things like marriage and abortion while spending profligately to pursue wars against Muslims would consider themselves members of the "Right". So would everyone in between. Ron Paul thinks we should end most foreign aid and that Israel should be held to the same human rights standards we hold other nations to. Rick Santorum thinks we should wage war on behalf of Israel against Iran, even if we don't have a compelling national interest. Both would be considered members of the Right.
(08-31-2012 04:35 AM)Ignatius Wrote: [ -> ]It might help to define exactly what you meant by "Right" and "Left". I haven't kept up with the intricacies of the Modern Left, but in 2012 United States, both small government, great personal freedom advocating free market capitalists and hardcore Christian fundamentalists that think the Constitution is an appropriate place to legislate things like marriage and abortion while spending profligately to pursue wars against Muslims would consider themselves members of the "Right". So would everyone in between. Ron Paul thinks we should end most foreign aid and that Israel should be held to the same human rights standards we hold other nations to. Rick Santorum thinks we should wage war on behalf of Israel against Iran, even if we don't have a compelling national interest. Both would be considered members of the Right.

Please refer to this thread. Feel free to join in and help us hone our definition.
Ignatius, you did not address the simple question in the original post. If you are looking for a place to rant, then perhaps this forum isn't for you. I gave you the benefit of the doubt on your first post, and assumed that maybe you weren't aware of the rules here.

If you are unable to see that your post was inappropriate here, then again, perhaps this isn't the forum for you.
(08-27-2012 12:29 PM)nomoon Wrote: [ -> ]I'd like to see if others agree with the premise of my other thread on the Left-Right schism on Israel? The other thread asked "why."

Do you agree that the Left/Liberals tends to side with the Palestinians, while the Right/Conservatives tend to side with Israel?

From a general impression, the left does seem to side with the Palestinians more. Left thinking persons tend to be more people oriented, and the reported deaths and injuries and displacements of so many persons upsets them as it does me.

However, from a different point of view, the war between Israelis and Palestinians is existential and, as it was in the US, it will be resolved, for the most part, by armed conflict. It's sad, but as Lawrence of Arabia noted in his book "The Seven Pillars of Wisdom", one tribe has been pushing another tribe into the deserts for millennia.
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